I’m still working on
my Byzantine garb. 🙂
Would anyone know if the collar (I can’t remember the proper name off hand, the vertical
piece was the pallium) could have a light, soft
leather for a base? I’m planning
embroidery in bright silk colors but was trying to figure out the best thing for a nice stiff base.
Should I need a light canvas fabric, or a
stiffened broadcloth, or leather,
or…….
Anyone with experience to share out there?
~ Benedicta / Karla Dick
Message #918, March 17, 2003
These collars are
called superhumerals. I don’t know
that we actually have any of those collars around. I did one on very heavy linen
and it worked well, but mine was
beaded not embroidered.
I would love to see it when you finish. I love Byzantine
stuff!
~ Louise de La Mare
Message #940, March 22, 2003
I’m thinking
embroidery on the base of fabric and then add some beads later on top. Linen? I think
I’ve some in a different color than my heavier dress fabric.
What weight linen would be best for each layer? This tunic is
in a fairly heavy linen, but I’m
planning others.
~ Benedicta /
Karla Dick
Message #945, March 23, 2003
I don’t remember the
weight. I made it about 3 years ago. The linen has worked very well. it is heavy
enough to support all the beading that I did, but not so stiff that it sticks out funny across my
shoulders and collar bone.
I used 2 layers. one with all the beading, then one to back
it and hide/protect all the
stitches. Mine is purple which contrasts with the yellow “tunic” (it has a specific name that
I cannot remember right now.)
I have also seen one done with the soft rayon ecclesiastical
fabrics that have a period
pattern, but not fabric content. then it was backed with something heavy. I thought it looked nice.
~ Louise de La Mare
Message #940, March 22, 2003
The ones I have seen made and made for myself seem to be fairly stiff. I think you could get away with a lined linen one if you are in a hot climate if you don’t weigh it down too heavily with the beadwork.
Currently I’m really liking wool embroidery on woolen garments, but here in An Tir, one can wear this almost all year. It looks like the texts differentiate between wear for cold weather and warm weather.
These collars are called ‘Barmy or Barmi’ in Russian costuming which is quite similar to Byzantine costume of this period. Anyone know what the Greek word in period for the superhumeral was?
~ Katrine / Katherine Barich
Message #947, March 23, 2003