(A compendium of broken links from discussions on the 12th Century Garb Yahoo Group list that might be worth looking into at some point.)
1. “My garb webpage is far from complete but if anyone is curious,
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wittie/sca/
see garb and pictures
-Aibell”
~ Message #45, June 4, 2002
2. “If you really want to get into it [re: medieval drafts for weaving], try this website:
http://www.angelfire.com/il/faena/medieval.html
Of course, they have just enough information on their website to be interesting. You have join to get to the good stuff.
Ealasaid
~ Message #58, June 5th 2002
3. Twelfth and Thirteenth Century Clothing
“Thanks to Gennevote for giving me the address.
“Looking at this site, it’s really pretty basic. The only how-to part is about how to adapt Kass McGann’s St Louis shirt pattern for a woman, and there are no pictures of what the pattern comes out as, or indeed of any of the site author’s recreations, which I would like to see.
“There are a lot of pictorial sources, but despite the title, a number are from the Manesse Codex, which is 14th century – 1330’s, so not even borderline 13th century. The only 12th century sources are the bliaut statues at Chartres, and one image from the Bayeaux tapestry (11th century!) which is labelled as a bliaut on the basis that the stitch lines seem to indicate some gathering around the sides of the torso.
“It doesn’t really give me anything I need, but others might find it more useful.”
— Brangwayna Morgan
Message #74, July 6, 2002
“Please post it, just add a comment to say how reliable the source is. I’m hoping we can have a links section that lists all links to 12th century garb. If we can list how reliable sites are then perhaps people can have a better idea of how good a site is, rather than constantly rediscovering the wheel.
Actually my main comment about this page (from a quick glance only) is that it is easy for a person to confuse which period the various different bits of the page are from. It should really be labelled 12-14th century clothing, and doesn’t point out which garments belong to which period. Nor is it’s coverage of 12th century garments broad or comprehensive. Read only sections labelled “bilaut”. I’ve seen worse sites, but also better ones. A rather simplistic approach to sewing, but we all need a simplified pattern to work from when we start out.
~ Teffania
Message #76, July 7, 2002
4. I’ve been perusing
http://www.sca.org.nz/collegium/costume/wardrobe_12C_frankish_noblewoman.php
(what a great page!)
~ Evelun / Kelly Rhodes
Message #190, August 31, 2002
smocking. Heres a very far away picture of that
> > specific example, but if you can find it in a much
> > larger print, you can see what I am talking about:
Yep, I have a larger one. I haven’t done any website updates in forever and three years, unfortunately. It is, however, in my pBase gallery awaiting uploading. Link to the bigger one on pBase is here:
If you click on ‘original’ from there, it blows up quite large. If you need anything else from Chartres let me know- I have some really good detailed pictures from a book (that is, if I ever get around to scanning them, lol)
~ Galiana / Amanda Bowen
Message #228, September 11, 2002
Hungarian Regalia
“This is a Hungarian site (in English) that has details about 11th- 12th century Hungarian royal regalia, including an elaborately embroidered mantle. Great close up shots of embroidery and beadwork including graphics of how the embroidery was done.”
~ Katrine / Katherine Barich
Message #300, October 14, 2002
HRE Regalia
The Kunsthistorische Museum has displayed on-line the 12th century alb/tunic of the Holy Roman Emporer. Be sure to click on the detail image on the bottom to see a closer view of the neck treatment which seems to similar to what we are seeing on some of the statues.
Also featured is the mantle which I was nattering on about yesterday if you click the previous button on the page above.
~ Katrine / Katherine Barich
Message #301, October 14, 2002
Trim
There’s a bit of loveley
extant trim online that I ran accross (gold couched onto red silk
twill), that I thought about puting there, but hesitated since it is
labled as 13th cen… if that’s not too late a date for this
collection of extanct pieces, I’ll add it there. Meanwhile, here’s
the link: www.advancenet.net/~jscole/medemb/band1.gif
~ “sissmith42”
Message #308, October 16, 2002
Braid Cases
The lovely Queen Ezebella has pointed out a beatiful example of braid casings to me:
http://users.iafrica.com/m/me/melisant/costume/garb2.htm
third picture down, lady on the right
Ezebella couldn’t post it here because her email is dodgy at the moment,
but please give her 3 huzzahs!
~ Teffania
Message #316, October 23, 2002
Timeline
Q: Is there a “timeline” or can someone put together one for dresses. I am really confused (I’m a newbie too… obvious huh?) about what might be the period style of dress(es) for my persona.
A: http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wittie/sca/garb.html .
I think you may find this site invaluable. I know I have.
~ Gwen verch Rhys / Jennifer Hill
Message # 375, November 21, 2019
Pinks
I ran across this on
the NaturalDyes newslist and thought you might be
interested in the colors.
http://www.rugreview.com/13-3nest.htm
Aela / Susan Tillery
Message #649
Symbolism
he knight and lady on the pouch is shown here in color:
http://www.angevintreasures.com/aenor/coif.htm
You can read about the symbolism in my text.
There is a Great book I have that talks about the symbolism of the artwork.
We need to remember that almost all art works in this time period were
symbolic!
This book is wonderful that it really gets into why the images were chosen
for the picture and what they mean.
For instance the dog she has on a leash is symbolic of her controling the
“animal” in the relationship with the man. and he often has a hawk on his
arm symbolic of being the “hunter” in the relationship- huning for a mate…
Michael Camille, the Medieval Art of Love 1998
~ Aénor d’Anjou / Kirsten Wienand Vaughan
Message #692, January 9, 2003
Stitches for Embroidery
You may find this
article interesting: (click on 5 cross cultural
embroidery stitches under embellishment, embroidery and other
techniques)
http://www.vertetsable.com/periodstyle.htm
It is by An Tir’s fabulous costumer, Marquesa Laurellin, and
her
entire site is most interesting. She does Renaissance mostly,
but
there are interesting articles on felt work and earlier
european
stuff.
~ Katrine / Katherine Barich
Message #705, January 10, 2003