• Embroidery Links - I know there are some pics of 12th C embroidery patterns on the files page for this group, but I found some more drawings of embroidered bands on the internet last week. Now that I am back on my own computer, I can't find them anymore. Does anyone have a few more examples I can look at or know of some more links. ~ Manyra / Keri-Anne Lawton Message #655, January 6, 2003 Here's one from Cynthia Virtue's page http://www.virtue.to/articles/images/1130_real_sleeve.jpg This is the sleeve of the dalmatic that belonged to the coronation robes made in the 12th century and thereabouts.… …
  • Book Review – A History of Western Embroidery - I just finished reading "A History of Western Embroidery" by Mary Eirwen Jones, Watson-Guptill Publications, 1696 ISBN # 289796555, 159 pages, 85 photographic images on plates, some color. A very interesting easy to read book that covers European embroidery from antiquity to modern day, with most of the emphasis on medieval and renaissance embroidery. She discusses different regions of Europe and addresses the evolution of needlework in each area. I found that there are specific references to the 12th century, but she generalizes often without giving a start date for a technique or a name, which was a bit frustrating.… …
  • Inkle Weaving vs Tablet Weaving - I am also interested in band loom weaving, and card weaving. (I have an inkle loom as well, but my research shows its use to be very, very late period, if at all.) It's claimed that the modern tabletop inkleloom wasn't invented till last century, but a kind of floor loom called inkle loom existed before this. There was a discussion of this very recently on the SCA cardweaving list I think. Anyway, the general idea is that if you can't distinguish what kind of loom was used to make the piece, then no-one is going to be able to… …
  • Commercial Trim - I know commercial trim isn't authentic but I have no one around who can embroider or teach me how to. I found this trim and I was wondering if it is a periodish pattern before I buy it. There are light blue diamond outlines going lengthwise with a dark blue center and surrounding. It has a border of white on the inside and very small triangles that are the dark blue and another white line. I do have a pic if anyone wants to see it (probably better). Thank you, ~ Kimberly Message # 849, February 2003 …
  • Orfrois - I am looking for information about orfrois. Were plain bands woven then decorated?  Was it strips of fabric that was embroidered before being sewn onto fabric?  Or was it embroidery that was cut off of worn out clothing, the sewn onto a new piece? I am interested because I want to try inkle weaving plain bands, then embellishing them before I put them on garb. I haven’t yet learned to card weave, and I want to make my own trim with something besides the same old inkle patterns.Any thoughts? In Service ~ Melisent / Kim McGuire Message #900, March 12,… …
  • Embroidery - (original subject line:  Re: Re: Thanks all) I applaud the embroidery! I have no intention of learning how to weave – I don't need any more hobbies in this grand huge hobby of ours. I embroider, love it and plan to put that machine made stuff out of business (no offense to the merchants out there!) I wish I could find more (hint, hint) on which stitches were used, where, etc., for embellishments and pictures of embroidery on clothing. I see lots of text saying things were embroidered and beaded for embellishment. But I'd like to know that what I… …
  • too lazy to embroider - I am working on my bliaut, and finally realized I am never going to embroider the sleeves like I want to. I was thinking of quilting a band and attaching it instead. I was thinking of something along the lines of the border pattern on this manuscript http://www.aemma.org/onlineResources/manesse/manesseHome.htm Isabeau Eagdyth Munteanu Message #993, April 7, 2003 Manesse Codex Minature depicting Graf Friederich von Leiningnen The minnesinger on this miniature is probably Frederick II of Leiningen (1201-1237). This Rhineland-Palatinate family takes its name from the castle Alt-Leiningen at Grünstadt near Worms. Palantina Library, University of Heidelberg Inv. # Cod. Pal. germ.… …
  • Trim or Embroidery? - Most of the websites I've seen recommend trim to embellish bliauts. Is this because it better replicates what was used or because it's easier than embroidery? I have some trim that has a good pattern, but I also have some good patterns for my computerized embroidery machine. Which one is more appropriate, assuming that I'm not going for 100% authenticity? ~ Giovanna Message #1030, April 17, 2003 I would guess that people use trim because it's easier. The only thing that might replicate modern trim in period would be some sort of card-weaving, I believe, and I don't know if we… …